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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2003 11:27 pm    Post subject: Jailing Reply with quote

Currently the areas of Kravenwood are out of hand. Theves and PK's are running amok. the Kravenwood Militia needs an IC Jailing system. This will help to force proper RP of guardsmen, as if they are accused of abuse then their arresting powers will be revoked and they will be booted from the militia. it will Prevent mass killers of Cyric or whatever "I'm, angry today, and feel like killing a bunch of people grr..." people pop up next. It'll allow real law in Kravenwood instead of the CRAP killing to enforce the law, (which we all know does nothing since you can simply respawn). it can help the LoS or any equivalant guild nowadays to get some jobs, get paid. it would allow the militia to show their true corruption instead of the "we enforce the law and heal the injured" image that we project now.

Suggestions of how it could work:

It would only work in the lands of kravenwood (KWE KW Lowlands and KW Path), with unlockable (high DC) unbreakable cell doors. it would only work if neither party was in combat (how could you arrest someone with a gun without making them subdued first?). it could be arena PvP so if you die you can't leave. if there's a sever reset, too bad, try again. shouldn't have been arrested.
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Matthijs says:
   oh ja, ik weet het zonet nog niet
Matthijs says:
   het ziet er toch wel een beetje naar uit dat we nederlands praten
Matthijs says:
   mischien moet ik dan maar eens vaker nederlands gaan praten
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   kan je me ook meteen niet op al mijn spellinsfouten wijzen
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PostSat 03/01/03 11:31pm
Might I add that the EWG has no IC jail system either at the moment, although they're in a a safe non-PvP area.  Reply with quote
 
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2003 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uin wrote:
although they're in a a safe non-PvP area.


we mainly need it just for this reason, to control the waves of pickpockets, murderers, and other... odd, assy RP'ers that ruin it for everyone.
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Matthijs says:
   oh ja, ik weet het zonet nog niet
Matthijs says:
   het ziet er toch wel een beetje naar uit dat we nederlands praten
Matthijs says:
   mischien moet ik dan maar eens vaker nederlands gaan praten
Matthijs says:
   kan je me ook meteen niet op al mijn spellinsfouten wijzen
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PostMon 03/03/03 11:04pm
I won't let this topic die.  Reply with quote
 
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2003 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EWG should have one too.


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it would allow the militia to show their true corruption


LOL - can I join?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2003 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

only if you pass...










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(aka PMing me so I can ask Nefi to you check out)
and yes, the EWG could use jailing too... for their ghey weapons laws...
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Matthijs says:
   oh ja, ik weet het zonet nog niet
Matthijs says:
   het ziet er toch wel een beetje naar uit dat we nederlands praten
Matthijs says:
   mischien moet ik dan maar eens vaker nederlands gaan praten
Matthijs says:
   kan je me ook meteen niet op al mijn spellinsfouten wijzen
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PostMon 03/03/03 11:15pm
It'd also be nice if they could let people out of the jail after they cast gate.. assuming they can't  Reply with quote
 
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2003 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be good to make it possible to have a person's friends come in and free him from the jail or even pay a fine to get out. In Eleriina even its too easy to jail. Need some more realism to em.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2003 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In Eleriina even its too easy to jail


Huh?
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PostTue 03/04/03 12:27am
I mean you should need to subdue someone in Eleriina before you can jail him. Subdual damage ought to be implemented in this mod.  Reply with quote
 
Glorin
PostTue 03/04/03 12:30am
well unfortunately not everyone would go along with it,  Reply with quote
 
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2003 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so? all in the rules, glorin. in D&D there was no improved powerattack. they just felt like de powering power attack so it wouldn't be as good (duh). in real rules you could put up tou your base attack bonus into power attack. in this you can only put up to ten icon_sad.gif with TWO feats :'(

they made things so crappy in this game...
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Matthijs says:
   oh ja, ik weet het zonet nog niet
Matthijs says:
   het ziet er toch wel een beetje naar uit dat we nederlands praten
Matthijs says:
   mischien moet ik dan maar eens vaker nederlands gaan praten
Matthijs says:
   kan je me ook meteen niet op al mijn spellinsfouten wijzen
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PostTue 03/04/03 3:03am
Jailing should be a touch attack vs the defender's ac so they can get away if they are agile or something.  Reply with quote
 
Little Teapot
PostTue 03/04/03 3:04am
you just don't want to be jailed... damn monk...  Reply with quote
 
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PostTue 03/04/03 3:12am
pooooooooooooooooooooo  Reply with quote
 
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2003 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i Guess it could work with a touch attack, since you DO actually need to touch the person to arrest someone. plus, it would probably be more effective if i were a fighter trying to arrest someone than a wussy little mage.
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Matthijs says:
   oh ja, ik weet het zonet nog niet
Matthijs says:
   het ziet er toch wel een beetje naar uit dat we nederlands praten
Matthijs says:
   mischien moet ik dan maar eens vaker nederlands gaan praten
Matthijs says:
   kan je me ook meteen niet op al mijn spellinsfouten wijzen
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PostThu 03/06/03 5:32pm
I believe there are other authorities in the KWM and EWG that wish to speak up for this...  Reply with quote
 
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2003 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the problem with a touch attack in NWN is that it is goofed up.... take this, here we go, lengthy explanation for you
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Touch attack is against the base AC of a target, natural dodge and monk added onto it, meaning if someone is going to be jailed, say your low level monk with a 14 dex and a 16 wis with a +2 natural amulet of armor on

A touch attack would work like this....

ac base 10+2dex+3monk+2natural=17

that means the attacker (person jailing) would need to make a touch attack at 17 to successfully jail someone....
now,

take that same monk except he is wearing a +2 robes of the shining hand and a cloak of protection +2
that would jack his ac upto 19 correct? yes.
but would it move his touch attack ac up? no.

Take this for example....

A big burly fighter wearing full plate +5 and a shield of defense +3 with 12 dex would have a 8+1+3 ac at base of 10

here is the deal though, the afore mentioned burly fighter would have 11+8+3 meaning a 22 ac.... but the thing is.... it does not matter if he is wearing full plate, because you can still TOUCH him PHYSICALLY even in full plate, effectively keeping his ac at 11.


thats the deal, it only adds natural, dodge, and monk bonus to ac for a touch attack, that means basically a fighter with all the +5 deflection, full plate, shield and crap would still have a very low touch attack, unless he was wearing an amulet of natural armor, which with 11 base and +5 would be around 16-18 range, nothing at all for a mage to cast vampiric touch on and penetrate (mages have a base touch attack of 10 at level 20 i believe) meaning you only need to roll a decent 12 or so to jail the fighter

thats how touch attack works, hope i made some sense there

while im on the subject lemme give ya some more D&D lore


.......
*brain fart*

ok so we are done here

Peace.
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Malakalam
PostThu 03/06/03 11:06pm
er.. how is that goofed up? looks fine to me  Reply with quote
 
Drudley
PostThu 03/06/03 11:18pm
Its goofed up cause monks and rogues are really hard to jail buut the rest is really easy..?  Reply with quote
 
Little Teapot
PostThu 03/06/03 11:39pm
it's supposed to factor in majikal protection.  Reply with quote
 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2003 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

its goofed up as in vampiric touch does not require a touch check, neither does most spells that require a ranged touch attack or a melee touch attack, biowares lack of programming D&D for you
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2003 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn bioware. But yeah touch attacks, as per true D&D rules make perfect sense for having Monks and Rogues in little armor harder to jail than a heavyly armored fighter. Armor slows you down and such. Your not quite as nimble in all that.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2003 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just stay out of trouble if your not a monk or rogue icon_mrgreen.gif icon_mrgreen.gif
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PostFri 03/07/03 10:46am
I hate Bioware, seriously, those guys could've and should've done a much better job.  Reply with quote
 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2003 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

umm... we don't have jailing yet, which is why i'm not letting this post die. currently bri has his hands full with his little "Mod" or whatever (icon_wink.gif) and probably doesn't have much time to listen to the cries of his militia leaders for a useful tool.the city of Kravenwood is currently in a kill-anyone-and-you're-dead mode, and I'm really enjoying it icon_twisted.gif but I'd much rather have people be going to jail for being annoying IC...
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Matthijs says:
   oh ja, ik weet het zonet nog niet
Matthijs says:
   het ziet er toch wel een beetje naar uit dat we nederlands praten
Matthijs says:
   mischien moet ik dan maar eens vaker nederlands gaan praten
Matthijs says:
   kan je me ook meteen niet op al mijn spellinsfouten wijzen
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2003 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I support the suggestion of giving the Kravenwood Militia powers to jail culprits breaking the laws of the Kravenwood lands.
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