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pragors
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 Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2003 12:48 pm Post subject: Run for Darklord and Topaz |
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I dont like the running for the treasures of darklord and topaz after every server restart. I dont like it because it's not fair, those with fast computers get their first, and the other (with normal computers) arrive half a minut later on and it's always a mess who has the right to go for darklord and who not. Also those with the fast computers quit always get the treasures. I would recommend that the respawning of darklord and topaz should be randomized also when server restarts (but not the way that he is only every hour realtime there), so that the game becomes more fair and realistic.
Great Server, greetz from a wrilly veteran dyso player, pragors |
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ShadowCore
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| Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2003 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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And again I have to say this: There is no work being done on this version, so there is no use in suggesting stuff for it. The only time when stuff will get updated, is when rebirth version gets released, and that's gonna take a while.
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Drudley
Sun 03/02/03 2:18pm
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| Umm.. are you forgetting about 3.x? |
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ShadowCore
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| Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2003 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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Apparently I am, but I didn't realise any work was being done on that. Since it clearly said somewhere that all the work was being directed to Rebirth. Ah well, must have missed something.
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Drudley
Sun 03/02/03 2:28pm
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| Gesh is Rebirth only, Bri is the boss of all other dysotpiasasas and can still update change add do whatever with it |
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Shin2k
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| Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2003 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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? lol....
I think its true what pragors says....
but well when i get a better computer I will probably not think that
but the spawn is quite random.... once the server isnt resetting for bout two spawns nobody knows when the dark lord is gonna come back... but if the server resets every two minutes then yes... you'll never get to see the dark lord 
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laz
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| Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2003 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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I also think that the portal to the darklord should require two tomes one from the divine and one from the arcane. That would cut down on people luring the arcane into toapz and leaving the divine. It also will foster people to cooperate because one group may have the arcane tome and the other have teh divine tome.
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kental-sin
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| Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2003 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah i have gone in to many times into the emarald hours after restrats and having the divine there and the arcane not because someone rushed the someodd hours ago and left the divine.
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ShadowCore
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| Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2003 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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How can you go in after a server restart and only find the divine because someone killed the divine hours ago? The server restarted, what happened hours ago shouldn't have any effect you know.
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kental-sin
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| Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2003 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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I was talking about after the server restrats someone goes and rushes emarald i come in some odd hours ago and find the divine from the guys who rushed when i wanna kill the darklord.
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ShadowCore
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| Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2003 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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Oohhhh, well, you see, you really need to do something about your grammar and stuff, you're quite incomprehensible otherwise.
But that is a problem, finding an empty emerald cave. But there is one simple solution:waiting. The renders reappear after about two hours.
Oh, and the slow PC is no problem, I have the slowest PC that can run this game, and I've gotten the Topaz AND the Emerald(both at the same time) after a restart more than once.
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Shin2k
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Jon316
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| why does my p4 1.4 take 1 minute to load kravenwood or emerald caverns? it takes almost 20-60 seconds to load every area except the rift gate rooms and the lost woods or the lowbie woods which take almost 5 minutes to load, it sucks, bri had a 600 meg p3 or something one time and loaded 2 times faster than me, i wanna kill my computer it sucks so bad.... grrr...and the crashes, ugh dont get me started.... |
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ShadowCore
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| Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 11:16 am Post subject: |
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Hehehe, that sounds like me Jon. Only a tad bit better. My PC actually crashes whenever a huge area like eastern forest unloads 
I think that the problem is the Video Card. Since it only crashes and shows problems when something very visual comes up. The Video Card either needs more memory, or a total refreshment. I think a Geforce4 should do it.
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Darkshadow666
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| Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2003 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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I used to work for an ISP and this is what I've noticed:
The key to getting the areas to fast I found is based on two things. First the PC has to be pretty fast, and more importantly the type of bandwidth that you are connecting with. Cable, DSL, or dialup. Cable almost always will have a faster download speed than DSL (1.5mb to usually 768kb) and well dial up has a top of 53kb not 56k (because of the FCC).
Jon what are you connecting with because your system should be fast enough?
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Finnmih
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| Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2003 9:12 am Post subject: |
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i didnt want to say that ... but i have a p3 1000 and a connection speed at 33.6kb  ... but i get and topaz and emerald before others does... i even have a race with a friend that had 2mb speed and beat him ... so i dont believe that you need a better computer or connection speed. |
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Shin2k
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| Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2003 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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So your saying its all skill? Your character is just a level 20 Rusher or something?
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so i dont believe that you need a better computer or connection speed.
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Thats like.... STUPID  of course it affects it I use a PIII 600 and if I load the big forest thing it takes me ALOT of time, luckily on the other hand I got dsl as connection, I wanna bet if you play on a PIII 500 Mhz and I play on a P4 3 Ghz that Ill beat you.... lol perhaps if I even dont know the way
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ShadowCore
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| Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2003 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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You bet? I know for sure, I once held a little race with Jase(who was then playing as Lia), and even though I was a monk with haste, and he played a rogue with NOTHING, he still beat me with a couple of minutes. I hate my pc.
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Z
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| Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2003 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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Just like to say I have a P4 1.6Ghz with 64Mb ATI
I had a 56k modem (which connected at 36k), and when i upgraded to my spanking new 1Mb Cable connection (approx. 28 times faster than the 56k modem), i noticed absolutely no difference in load times in dysotopia, none at all... 
...so i believe that your connection doesnt really matter, its just your processor and ram. I dont think video cards actually affect loading times , just almost everything else..
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ShadowCore
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| Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2003 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, Z, it's mainly the video card that effects loading times, since everything needs to be loaded into the memory of that card, not into the normal RAM. That takes much more time than other loading processes, trust me.
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GorbGuy
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| Darkshadow666 wrote: |
I used to work for an ISP and this is what I've noticed:
The key to getting the areas to fast I found is based on two things. First the PC has to be pretty fast, and more importantly the type of bandwidth that you are connecting with. Cable, DSL, or dialup. Cable almost always will have a faster download speed than DSL (1.5mb to usually 768kb) and well dial up has a top of 53kb not 56k (because of the FCC).
Jon what are you connecting with because your system should be fast enough? |
More importantly, how many hops are you from Dyso. I'm the extremly lucky one here, as I connect directly to the LAN on which Dyso resides. I can "zone in" and out much much faster than people playing straight off a T1. That being said, I also connect via a 31.2K dial-up. It's not so much the speed of your internet, as it is, the number of stops your internet traffic has to go to get someplace, especially with Dyso (which is a pretty low packet system.) Here's a good test... Click on Start, goto Run and type command into the box and hit enter. You'll come to a command prompt. Now, type in tracert -d 65.119.181.61. Your window should show something similar to this:
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H:\>tracert -d 65.119.181.61
Tracing route to 65.119.181.61 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 65.119.181.61
Trace complete. |
As you can see, I don't have far to travel to hit the servers. Most of you are likely to see 5 or more "hops." This, is what really can slow things down. Now, when I do the same for say.. yahoo.com and take off the -d so I can see what the DNS names of those IP addresses are..
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H:\>tracert yahoo.com
Tracing route to yahoo.com [64.58.79.230]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms 1 ms 2 ms lx-fw-midd[65.119.181.33]
2 15 ms 15 ms 15 ms chi-edge-19.inet.qwest.net [63.144.64.89]
3 15 ms 15 ms 15 ms chi-core-02.inet.qwest.net [205.171.20.65]
4 19 ms 15 ms 15 ms chp-brdr-01.inet.qwest.net [205.171.220.58]
5 15 ms 16 ms 16 ms bpr1-so-5-0-0.ChicagoEquinix.cw.net[208.174.226.29]
6 16 ms 16 ms 18 ms dcr2-so-4-3-0.Chicago.cw.net[208.175.10.237]
7 50 ms 43 ms 42 ms dcr2-loopback.Washington.cw.net [206.24.226.100]
8 43 ms 44 ms 43 ms bhr1-pos-0-0.Sterling1dc2.cw.net [206.24.238.34]
9 49 ms 44 ms 44 ms csr11-ve241.Sterling2dc3.cw.net [216.109.66.90]
10 45 ms 44 ms 43 ms 216.109.84.162
11 44 ms 44 ms 44 ms vl43.bas1.dcx.yahoo.com [216.109.120.190]
12 44 ms 44 ms 44 ms w1.rc.vip.dcx.yahoo.com [64.58.79.230]
Trace complete. |
As you can see, I start out a little south of Grand Rapids, Michigan. From there my "stuff" goes to our ISP (Qwest) in Chicago, Ill. It stays there for 5 hops, then bounces over to Washington. Then heads towards where ever Sterling is (near Seattle or Redmond perhaps??). Then finally touches down at one of Yahoo's servers. 12 hops to get a single webpage! Also note the times needed to reach the next destination. |
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Kindo
Thu 03/06/03 5:50pm
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| Cool. I got 17 hops. And 11 of those are within my country or something (telia.net). Now that ain't very good, is it? Eh? |
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ShadowCore
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| Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2003 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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Ahh, tracert, haven't used that in a while, hehe
Hmm, timeouts from the 12th hop and on. That can't be good...
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Shin2k
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| Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2003 6:43 am Post subject: |
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14 hops! I Am happy 
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ShadowCore
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| Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2003 10:35 am Post subject: |
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16 hops to both of them, and thor timed-out.
Hmm, 8 hops in my country(4 of which in Amsterdam), and then a sudden transition all the way to New York. And then it transitions to a QWest network, that's funny, QWest bankrupted here 
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Kindo
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| I am still a bit boggled over my hops. First there are like 3 hops just in my neighbourhood (1 my PC I use, 1 the other PC which the connection goes through, and 1 where THAT PC connects. Then there are like 10 on other locations in my country. And only the 4 or 3 last are other connections. (which I assume 2 of them are Gorb?) oh well....hmm...not good.... |
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GorbGuy
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| Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2003 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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| I am still a bit boggled over my hops. First there are like 3 hops just in my neighbourhood (1 my PC I use, 1 the other PC which the connection goes through, and 1 where THAT PC connects. Then there are like 10 on other locations in my country. And only the 4 or 3 last are other connections. (which I assume 2 of them are Gorb?) oh well....hmm...not good.... |
Yup, there will always be at least two hops to either of the dysotopia game servers, one will be chi-edge-19.inet.qwest.net [63.144.64.89] which is the Qwest relay in which our T1 links up to, the second being lx-fw-midd[65.119.181.33] which is our T1 Router/Firewall. The rest of them will vary depending upon your location and which route the "internet" thinks is the fastest. I have been playing around with some settings, including some DNS "stuff" which may or maynot help. Only time will tell. |
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M-K
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| 15 hops 3 to get out of country then 2 to US then 10 to Dyso |
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Jon316
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| Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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| ok damnit, no fucking wonder why it sucks so bad, i got 36 messages or whatever well over 30 hops and it said and thats why i load so damned slow, another reason to call it quits on this stupid ass server.... i cant believe i am even reading the forums.... only this topic as i just learned something new from gorb in that little thing he did and showed me what it was..... bleh screw this... i want my fucking account deleted already, i send messages to admins and nothing happens, fuck. |
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