DysoForums Forum Index DysoForums
 
GalleryGallery   Donate to DysotopiaDonate   Dysotopia.com homepageDyso.com
SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   StatisticsStats   RegisterRegister 
 Login to check your private messagesLogin to check your private messages   LoginLogin 

Adding clothes hak pak to Dysotopia:Poll
Goto page 1, 2  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    DysoForums Forum Index -> Chatter - History
View previous topic :: View next topic :: Hide signatures  

Would you like to add a Clothing Hak pack?
No
4%
 4%  [ 2 ]
Yes, if it's under 2 Megs.
4%
 4%  [ 2 ]
Yes if it's under 20 Megs
20%
 20%  [ 9 ]
Yes if it's under 200 Megs
2%
 2%  [ 1 ]
Yes if it's under 2 Gigabyes
20%
 20%  [ 9 ]
Yes any size is fine.
44%
 44%  [ 19 ]
Maybe...
2%
 2%  [ 1 ]
Total Votes : 43

Author Message
Coral_Reef
Grandmaster


Joined: 11 Mar 2003
Posts: 252

Level: 14
XP
EXP: 28 / 33 EXP: 28 / 33 EXP: 28 / 33
 84%
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2003 4:27 pm    Post subject: Adding clothes hak pak to Dysotopia:Poll Reply with quote

I think that adding Lisa's complete clothes horse hak will add a lot to Dysotopia. It's less than 2 Megs.

Check it out at

http://nwvault.ign.com/Files/hakpacks/data/1040598113289.shtml
_________________
Another carrier pigeon from

Coral Reef

I'm online 10 PM -> late EST -5 GMT

I host the social server
A Coral Reef

Come visit sometime!
Back to top
View users profile Send private message Send email
Uin
Hardass


Joined: 04 Sep 2002
Posts: 1555

Level: 33
XP
EXP: 60 / 117 EXP: 60 / 117 EXP: 60 / 117
 51%
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2003 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd certainbly encourage its use. The more character customisation the better, best thing about and persistant game is if your unique. Any size is fine for me.
_________________
Your Friendly Scottish Hardass Ex-Moderator
Stone Deaf
Back to top
View users profile Send private message Send email AIM Address MSN Messenger
ShadowCore
Great Deity


Joined: 25 Nov 2002
Posts: 2833

Level: 42
XP
EXP: 27 / 186 EXP: 27 / 186 EXP: 27 / 186
 14%
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2003 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rmember seeing this kind of poll a lot, and every single time I saw everybody saying "NO!! No Hak packs!! It's too much of a burden!", and I remember hearing Bri and Gesh say that they didn't want them either. This has been on a LOT, so please, look around before posting it next time icon_wink.gif
_________________

Back to top
View users profile Send private message Send email Visit posters website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger
Griff Inn
Ice Lolly


Joined: 10 Sep 2002
Posts: 679

Level: 23
XP
EXP: 46 / 65 EXP: 46 / 65 EXP: 46 / 65
 70%
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2003 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well Shadow, I used to think that they'd be too much of a burden, everyone would have to download them for it to work etc. but seeing how the everyone's downloaded the portrait pack with no problems (even me and it took AGES on my 56k!!!), it proves that we can all handle the hassle, because we're such a good community icon_biggrin.gif . I think if this hakpak is posted up in the same place as the portrait pack, everyone will download it, I mean it's not even 2 meg so I think it's definately worth a try. (As long as it is 100% bug free of course).

Griff
_________________
Never underestimate the power of hot tea.
Back to top
View users profile Send private message
Marine436
Lamer


Joined: 26 Jan 2003
Posts: 1687

Level: 34
XP
EXP: 75 / 124 EXP: 75 / 124 EXP: 75 / 124
 60%
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2003 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol....anything above 2gigs is absurd...

i dont think it can get that high...

anyways, i STRONGLY encourage we do this..add the hak pack..make some custumized clothing and make a shop person sell it for CHEAP
_________________
PHEAR DA CORD !
Back to top
View users profile Send private message AIM Address MSN Messenger
expansia
Grandmaster


Joined: 22 Nov 2002
Posts: 341

Level: 17
XP
EXP: 10 / 41 EXP: 10 / 41 EXP: 10 / 41
 24%
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2003 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never used this particular hak pak, but I've been to social servers that have them. Typically they just modify existing clothes to look slightly different, and usually shifts them towards more male-oriented viewing. As long as the "naked" version of the characters remains modest (i.e. undergarments), I don't see a problem with them. In fact, it'd be fun to run around in a dress while fighting trolls or something.
_________________
~Nicha~Sophi~Lady Veri~Gagdusha~
Back to top
View users profile Send private message
Griff Inn
Ice Lolly


Joined: 10 Sep 2002
Posts: 679

Level: 23
XP
EXP: 46 / 65 EXP: 46 / 65 EXP: 46 / 65
 70%
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2003 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One question: if I download and install it and then I go into dyso (which at the moment does not have it), will it affect me in any way?

Griff
_________________
Never underestimate the power of hot tea.
Back to top
View users profile Send private message
Marine436
Lamer


Joined: 26 Jan 2003
Posts: 1687

Level: 34
XP
EXP: 75 / 124 EXP: 75 / 124 EXP: 75 / 124
 60%
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2003 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No

nothing will change

hak paks work like this


you CAN insert them in to a mod, if the mod has a HAK pak no one can connect to it, with out the Hak pak....the hak pak's are easy to download...and throw in a folder


any one who know's how to use a fourm know's how to do that...
_________________
PHEAR DA CORD !
Back to top
View users profile Send private message AIM Address MSN Messenger
Uin
Hardass


Joined: 04 Sep 2002
Posts: 1555

Level: 33
XP
EXP: 60 / 117 EXP: 60 / 117 EXP: 60 / 117
 51%
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2003 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

expansia wrote:
Typically they just modify existing clothes to look slightly different, and usually shifts them towards more male-oriented viewing.


Yes but the state they are in now is a joke.
_________________
Your Friendly Scottish Hardass Ex-Moderator
Stone Deaf


Last edited by Uin on Mon Apr 14, 2003 7:44 pm, edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View users profile Send private message Send email AIM Address MSN Messenger
Talia_k
PostMon 04/14/03 7:39pm
Yes, this hak would be very cool. So Whoever is in charge.... Please,please,please!!!  Reply with quote
 
Coral_Reef
Grandmaster


Joined: 11 Mar 2003
Posts: 252

Level: 14
XP
EXP: 28 / 33 EXP: 28 / 33 EXP: 28 / 33
 84%
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2003 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ShadowCore wrote:
I rmember seeing this kind of poll a lot, and every single time I saw everybody saying "NO!! No Hak packs!! It's too much of a burden!", and I remember hearing Bri and Gesh say that they didn't want them either. This has been on a LOT, so please, look around before posting it next time icon_wink.gif


ShadowCore,

Thanks for your input. You are correct that this has been posted about a lot (example ogt's post). I did a search and read the results before I posted. I felt that the question of hak packs was not phrased properly. Plus I'm asking for a very small hak pack, less than 2 megs.

Coral Reef

PS

If anyone wants I can post some example of what can be done with clothing.
_________________
Another carrier pigeon from

Coral Reef

I'm online 10 PM -> late EST -5 GMT

I host the social server
A Coral Reef

Come visit sometime!
Back to top
View users profile Send private message Send email
Little Teapot
Deity


Joined: 11 Sep 2002
Posts: 2332

Level: 39
XP
EXP: 31 / 160 EXP: 31 / 160 EXP: 31 / 160
 19%
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2003 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

why, me and Fooooozzzbaaaannneee were talking about this just the other day. We were wondering how much of a hassel it would be to get HakPaks (clothing) on Dyso, and once we got on there, if it would simply default the clothes to something or not let them connect. Marine answered my question, and I'm still wondering how you can possibly make a hakpak bigger than the game file...
_________________
Matthijs says:
   oh ja, ik weet het zonet nog niet
Matthijs says:
   het ziet er toch wel een beetje naar uit dat we nederlands praten
Matthijs says:
   mischien moet ik dan maar eens vaker nederlands gaan praten
Matthijs says:
   kan je me ook meteen niet op al mijn spellinsfouten wijzen
There you have it! indisputable proof Solo's a fascist!!!
Back to top
View users profile Send private message Send email AIM Address MSN Messenger
expansia
Grandmaster


Joined: 22 Nov 2002
Posts: 341

Level: 17
XP
EXP: 10 / 41 EXP: 10 / 41 EXP: 10 / 41
 24%
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2003 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't get me wrong, Uin...having long capes and actual dresses would be really cool. I'm just saying I don't want to log into Dyso and see the female cast of Baywatch run by. icon_biggrin.gif

I've been on servers that require you to have their hak paks before you can connect. That's alright, but if there was a way we could just have a default setting for each outfit, that would be better. Concerning newbes, most people hate to make that kind of "commitment" to a mod before they've even tried it. Also, a lot of people haven't even downloaded the portrait pak yet.

Coral...do you have examples from this exact hak pak we could see? Every one has a different style, and it would be nice to see this particular one's.
_________________
~Nicha~Sophi~Lady Veri~Gagdusha~
Back to top
View users profile Send private message
Tae
Master


Joined: 28 Feb 2003
Posts: 117

Level: 9
XP
EXP: 17 / 20 EXP: 17 / 20 EXP: 17 / 20
 85%
PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2003 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

*Whispers in the wind*

Just because it was voted on once, doesn't mean that things can't change. There are new people on the site all the time and some of us never voted the first time. If votes weren't reissued about pertinent topics every now and them, societies would never change. I actually think it's healthy to re-evaluate decisions every now and then.

Tae icon_razz.gif

ShadowCore wrote:
I rmember seeing this kind of poll a lot, and every single time I saw everybody saying "NO!! No Hak packs!! It's too much of a burden!", and I remember hearing Bri and Gesh say that they didn't want them either. This has been on a LOT, so please, look around before posting it next time icon_wink.gif

_________________
Did someone say SHOPPING ???
Back to top
View users profile Send private message
Coral_Reef
Grandmaster


Joined: 11 Mar 2003
Posts: 252

Level: 14
XP
EXP: 28 / 33 EXP: 28 / 33 EXP: 28 / 33
 84%
PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2003 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

expansia wrote:

Coral...do you have examples from this exact hak pak we could see? Every one has a different style, and it would be nice to see this particular one's.


expansia,

Click on this link and then click on the graphic for a quick display.

http://nwvault.ign.com/Files/hakpacks/data/1040598113289.shtml

For a more detailed view you can go to the Arleah roleplay server.

They use the earlier version of this hak.

Lisa's complete Clothes Horse Edition 6. which has almost everything in Edition 7.

Next time I'm in Arleah I'll take some oil paints and make some pictures.

Maybe some ladies can come and shop/model some of the female clothes?
_________________
Another carrier pigeon from

Coral Reef

I'm online 10 PM -> late EST -5 GMT

I host the social server
A Coral Reef

Come visit sometime!
Back to top
View users profile Send private message Send email
ShadowCore
Great Deity


Joined: 25 Nov 2002
Posts: 2833

Level: 42
XP
EXP: 27 / 186 EXP: 27 / 186 EXP: 27 / 186
 14%
PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2003 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:

this kind of poll a lot

Quote:

everybody saying "NO!! No Hak packs

Quote:

Bri and Gesh say that they didn't want them either.

Now, that says it all doesn't it. In any case, I am still against it. I don't like having to download hak packs to be able to play a game, even though I can easily do it with cable. And there are still some people out there who wouldn't know HOW to do it, or who just don't want to because it's too troublesome since there are other mods out there as well. I don't want that to happen to Dyso..
_________________

Back to top
View users profile Send private message Send email Visit posters website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger
Marine436
Lamer


Joined: 26 Jan 2003
Posts: 1687

Level: 34
XP
EXP: 75 / 124 EXP: 75 / 124 EXP: 75 / 124
 60%
PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2003 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SHadowcore

the hak pak's are simple

any one that can connect to Dyso...should have THAT much trouble install ing them


here are the steps...((client side only...it's easy for BRI also...but here we go))

Client side:
Download file
Place in folder
Done.

OMG ! shadow...look ! that would take a whoping 30 secounds....OMGS !!! and we get SOO much cooler stuff !!!


Now, server side

1. get all hak pak's you want, un pak them...re pak them in a new hakpak ((name it Dysotopia hakpak))

2. place a shop that sells clothing in the market, that use's the new hakpak ((or if he add's more he inserts it in the mod))

3. put the file on the web for players to download

-
see not that hard, and it add's SOOO much to dyso !!!

it affect's NOTHING after you play ! i have a 178 MB hak pak from a different server still in my folder !!!

it has ALOT of stuff
_________________
PHEAR DA CORD !
Back to top
View users profile Send private message AIM Address MSN Messenger
ShadowCore
Great Deity


Joined: 25 Nov 2002
Posts: 2833

Level: 42
XP
EXP: 27 / 186 EXP: 27 / 186 EXP: 27 / 186
 14%
PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2003 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, I KNOW how to use the stuff, Marine, you don't need to tell me how to. But note that I said:
Quote:

some people

Really, there are people who don't know how to do that. Not everyone knows PCs you doofus, and don't tell me taht it requires a minimum amount of knowledge, because it still requires less knowledge to connect to something in NWN.

And I am still opposed to it, do you know how many people would not even try coming here just because of a hakl pack they need to download? I know that if Dyso had had a hak pack when I started that I wouldn't have gotten into this. Therefore I am opposed to this, because I don't want that to happen. A lot of people feel it is too much of a hassle or that there are other mods out there worth trying.

And now I'm feeling I'm repeating myself, READ the rest the next time icon_mad.gif
_________________

Back to top
View users profile Send private message Send email Visit posters website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger
dreamin'
Hero


Joined: 11 Nov 2002
Posts: 625

Level: 22
XP
EXP: 51 / 59 EXP: 51 / 59 EXP: 51 / 59
 86%
PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2003 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

actually the server side is more complicated. If you want to create one big hak pak out of several smaller hak paks, and those hak paks modify the same .2da files, the changes will overwrite each other, and you get some weird effects. So you have to modify those .2da by hand.
Back to top
View users profile Send private message
Coral_Reef
PostTue 04/15/03 3:34pm
There is no longer any need to create a big hak pack as of update 1.28 or so.  Reply with quote
 
dreamin'
PostTue 04/15/03 3:36pm
there's still the need, because even if you use multiple small hak paks, changes to the .2da files will overwrite each other  Reply with quote
 
expansia
Grandmaster


Joined: 22 Nov 2002
Posts: 341

Level: 17
XP
EXP: 10 / 41 EXP: 10 / 41 EXP: 10 / 41
 24%
PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2003 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coral...I can come with you sometime you're on that other server and do some modeling if you want, no problem. Just send me a pm with the time. I think the examples look pretty good.

I also don't think the admin is opposed to hak paks since Gesh started a poll about one himself. His last comment on the subject was:

Quote:

Hmm, there is a concept...

Releasing our HakPak on CD-ROM for people to dload (sic). We can use donation cash to buy a pack of 100CDs for like $20 and then send them out to people if they absolutely need a copy.

If we did release a hak then it would be contained in a web deployment package I'd write. We'd have auto-updates, etc. that would allow you to easily update changes to the hak pak.

*dreams* someday...


Doesn't sound negative to me! icon_biggrin.gif
_________________
~Nicha~Sophi~Lady Veri~Gagdusha~
Back to top
View users profile Send private message
Aronthal
Master


Joined: 25 Mar 2003
Posts: 172

Level: 12
XP
EXP: 5 / 27 EXP: 5 / 27 EXP: 5 / 27
 18%
PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2003 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slightly off topic -- ok majorly off topic. The problem I have with these polls is that the majority of the players on dyso do not visit the forums regularly if at all. With the new persistence/databse capabilities it would be much more fruitful to have an in game poll. You could do this a couple of ways. And you could make it required if you realy wanted to. One way that seems interesting is to require you to take some polls while you are dead icon_smile.gif

Back on topic. I voted for a clothes hak pack at any size. The more customization the better!
Back to top
View users profile Send private message
Coral_Reef
Grandmaster


Joined: 11 Mar 2003
Posts: 252

Level: 14
XP
EXP: 28 / 33 EXP: 28 / 33 EXP: 28 / 33
 84%
PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2003 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

expansia wrote:
Coral...I can come with you sometime you're on that other server and do some modeling if you want, no problem. Just send me a pm with the time. I think the examples look pretty good.


Thanks expansia,

Note that you will need the version 6 hak pak to go onto Arleah.

Get it here

http://nwvault.ign.com/Files/hakpacks/data/1046535236168.shtml

Unzip it and put it in you hak folder beneath your NWN directory.

I'm on Dyso usually between 9 PM to 2 AM EST-5GMT.
_________________
Another carrier pigeon from

Coral Reef

I'm online 10 PM -> late EST -5 GMT

I host the social server
A Coral Reef

Come visit sometime!
Back to top
View users profile Send private message Send email
zacsartori
Mortal


Joined: 01 Apr 2003
Posts: 15

Level: 2
XP
EXP: 5 / 8 EXP: 5 / 8 EXP: 5 / 8
 62%
PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2003 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm just curious if its really neccesary

Sure it will add what like dresses and crap, but come on, what kind of adventurer wears a dress.

I think it would be cool, but i am wondering if it is really worth it.

How well tested is this hak, I mean, is it super good or does it fart every now and then. There are no bugs at all right? My only concern is that this hak, though it might make the game a little more interesting, may make the game a bit harder to play/make the server a bit less stable. We don't want that do we.

So IF and only if this hak is like super perfect and won't cause ANY problems, well then i don't see why you wouldn't add it, but if it even causes one little glitch, well I can do without then.
Back to top
View users profile Send private message AIM Address
Tae
Master


Joined: 28 Feb 2003
Posts: 117

Level: 9
XP
EXP: 17 / 20 EXP: 17 / 20 EXP: 17 / 20
 85%
PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2003 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*Whispers in the wind*

I wear dresses. icon_cool.gif

zacsartori wrote:
I'm just curious if its really neccesary

Sure it will add what like dresses and crap, but come on, what kind of adventurer wears a dress.
.


Tae icon_razz.gif
_________________
Did someone say SHOPPING ???
Back to top
View users profile Send private message
expansia
Grandmaster


Joined: 22 Nov 2002
Posts: 341

Level: 17
XP
EXP: 10 / 41 EXP: 10 / 41 EXP: 10 / 41
 24%
PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2003 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

*sighs* There are TONS of servers out there that use hak paks and have no problems associated with them. As long as things are done like the current portrait pak (don't have to use it if you don't want to), it'll work well for all. Now..if you can do that or not, I am unsure...

And I would like the option of wearing dresses...
_________________
~Nicha~Sophi~Lady Veri~Gagdusha~
Back to top
View users profile Send private message
Grusk
The Ownerizer


Joined: 11 Dec 2002
Posts: 851

Level: 26
XP
EXP: 12 / 78 EXP: 12 / 78 EXP: 12 / 78
 15%
PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2003 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I want a dress for my character! Then I can disguise myself as a woman and go into town acting all manly. Muahaha, that should really mess people up.

Dresses would also help for jail-games that pass the time.
Back to top
View users profile Send private message
zacsartori
Mortal


Joined: 01 Apr 2003
Posts: 15

Level: 2
XP
EXP: 5 / 8 EXP: 5 / 8 EXP: 5 / 8
 62%
PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2003 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

alright i retract my dress comment. sheesh, really though, like expansia said, all i worry about is that it will work 100% whether you download the hak or not, you should be ableto play the mod still.
Back to top
View users profile Send private message AIM Address
Jase
Elder


Joined: 12 Dec 2002
Posts: 951

Level: 27
XP
EXP: 34 / 83 EXP: 34 / 83 EXP: 34 / 83
 40%
PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2003 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's MY view:

Gesh is creating a Hak Pak and he will prob have clothes in it anyway. There are people who play Dyso and DON'T go to the forums ya know? Also If you DID get it and you DID get new stuff it'd only be a matter of time till you wanted more!
_________________
Module Developer
Back to top
View users profile Send private message AIM Address Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    DysoForums Forum Index -> Chatter - History All times are GMT
Goto page 1, 2  Next
Page 1 of 2

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB 2.0.2 © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group