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Maelstrom696969 · Lamer Joined: 18 Dec 2002 Posts: 1837

Okay, my Bard just gained Level 11, and his Perform is 20 - and that's with a completely unbuffed Charisma. According to the NWN Manual, at level 11 with a Perform of only 18 my Bard Song should now also grant a +2 Dodge AC Bonus. However, I do not seem to get that bonus when I sing! What gives? That's about the best part of the Song, especially seeing how at level 16 it's a total of +5!

I've also noticed that the "Damage" bonus the Song gives appears to be specifically bludgeoning damage. In the manual it looks like just a plain Damage bonus. Does this only apply to bludgeoning weapons? Or does it add a bludgeoning damage bonus to *any* weapon (so even my crossbow would do +2 bludgeoning).

Seems like it would be nice to get a more complete and especially _accurate_ list of what Bard Songs do at different character/perform levels.
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Ecusidor · Hero Joined: 17 Dec 2002 Posts: 501

Strange, if the manual says u get that bonus... u should get that bonus.

Either your char or the manual is flawed. I would check both your char ingame and the manual again, make sure you really dont get that dodge bonus... (U sounded unsure)

Weird...
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Malakalam · High Elder Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Posts: 1226

dodge bonus = extra AC, in case you were unsure about - it stacks with all other dodge as well (including the dodge from haste)

from what I've seen, bard song adds bludgeon to any weapon. you can always go buy a 1gp dagger or something to test it though
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Jase · Wed 03/12/03 5:41pm

the manual IS FLAWED. It says Druids get Greater Restoration and they DON'T! It's annoying. I don't play Bards though, ask Uin

Uin · Hardass Joined: 04 Sep 2002 Posts: 1555

I've found the manual to be OK with bard song. And ingame it does state +2 dodge AC at lvl 11 (with 18 perform).

However, at lvl 16 (and 26 perform) you definitely get all the bonuses the manual states. So not much need to worry.
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Maelstrom696969 · Wed 03/12/03 10:56pm

Thanks, Uin. Good to have the reassurance!

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Maelstrom696969 · Lamer Joined: 18 Dec 2002 Posts: 1837

Ah-HAH! Just figured it out! Once I advanced to Level 12, the +2 to AC (and also +1 to all Skills) that was *supposed* to happen on Level 11 finally kicked in. I know it had to do with that and not my Perform being too low, because I took off all my items except for Greater Gloves of the Minstrel, so my Perform was actually higher at level 11 than it is currently (I'm 13 now).

So I'm surprised that no one has pointed this out to BioWare yet, or if they have, that it hasn't been fixed. I mean, even if they leave it alone and make it so you have to be level 12, you'd think they'd change the one line of code in the game so that when you do an Examine and your Bard Song (if it's in a Quickslot) that it would say this doesn't work until Level 12 instead of 11.
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